drtee
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I manage the website for Nuevo Progreso, which is located directly on the border south of Weslaco, Texas. I have to go across on business a couple of times each week during slow months (like now) and more frequently when the Winter Texans are here. Since I'm going over there I usually wait until the tank's about dry and fill up there. Price here is about $3.85 a gallon and about $2.85 in Mexico. The only Pemex is 1.2 miles from border, but my tank hold 21 gallons. I usually save about $20 a tank. I notice a few US plates there when I fill up.
No diesel available there.
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qtla9111
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Am I off on here (totally  )? I was thinking this morning that it could be considered a dangerous act to bring a large quantity of fuel especially if it isn't in a gas tank or if it is an auxiliary tank.
I also believe that Pemex should put a limit on the fuel at border stations. It isn't right that we are paying a high fuel tax to subsidize diesel fuel only to have people come across load up and then go back to the U.S.
This is not meant to offend anyone by any means. Hey a fillup and some shopping sure. But to buy 300 gallons just to take it back and sell it, I don't agree. JMHO
So, am I off here?
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hypoxia
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qtla9111 wrote:Am I off on here (totally )?
Yes, this is a minor glitch in the big scheme of the world. That is called the free market. The airlines have tankered fuel for many years, hauling as much cheap fuel as they can regardless of the source.
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Mr Brew-Ski
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Finally made a diesel run to Tijuana last night. Was told that most fuel stations had been resupplied with diesel. The first station I stopped at indicated they had just run out of diesel. The second station had fuel but it was chaotic to say the least. There were easily 15 tractor trailers, 5 buses lined up trying to fuel up on three islands. In addition to a dozen or so cars purchasing gasoline. It would not have been so bad if it wasn't for the fact that this Pemex station is about the size of a postage stamp situated on a very busy throughway. Once fueled none of the cars or small trucks could pull forward, everyone had to back up including the 4 or 5 vehicles behind you because the tractor trailers were blocking the entrance. Though there were only three pickups in front of us it took 45 minutes before we were fueled & out of there. Told the DW next time to bring some popcorn as this was more entertaining than a movie.
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rocmoc
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qtla9111, I agree with simple fillup and shopping. Diesel is much safer to transport than gasoline.
hypoxia, how can it be a free market if the fuel is subsidized thu local taxes or the Mexican Government?
Mr Brew-Ski, How much did you save? How long did this run take? How much is your time worth per hour? Do you have Mexican insurance? Curious, not trying to upset you. Just don't understand where the savings is!
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qtla9111
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Interesting facts that lead to the high subsidies of Pemex and its products. It is still a cash cow but is desperate for reform now before the house in an on-going battle between both the left and right.
As of September 2007 Pemex had 206,626 employees. 114,000 unionized workers, 27,623 non-union workers and 64,740 retirees receiving pensions. Payroll costs for 2007 totaled 5 billion dollars.
Profitability for Pemex has been affected by government subsidizing some products to the tune of 3.5 billion dollars just in the last year.
Calderón's administration has also identified other elements that have had severe repercussions on Pemex's finances. For example, lower than expected production from wells at a loss differential of 2.5 billion dollars, excessive usage and energy costs at 2.6 billion dollars, excessively high drilling costs 7 billion dollars, maintenance inefficiencies at 2.6 billion dollars. So because of the above, Pemex posted losses of 27 billion dollars. There were also 395 major oil duct leaks reported in 2006 alone and this does not include those "leaks" that were purposely tapped by mafia for resale in the U.S. as well as Central America.
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moisheh
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I am sure most of us agree ( other than the few left coasters from Canada) that Governments make the worst business people (next to accountants). But Mexico has manged to bring that incompetence to a higher level. Every business that was nationalized lost money. Those that were always Government run never made a profit. All of these businesses were famous for being inneficient with rude employees. If you ever rode the Mexican rail lines 25 years ago you would remember this all too well. Telmex. banks, Pemex and many more were all the same. All are gone except for Pemex. It is a sacred cow. Ask any Mexican and he will tell you that they should never let outsiders run Pemex. But it has reached the point where very soon it wont't matter as the company will be history. I hope I am wrong and that Calderon makes some headway with the house.
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AZ Mike
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Ironic isn't it? US citizens go to Mexico for government subsidized fuel and Mexican citizens go to the US for government subsidized health care, food stamps, education, and the list is a long on. I understand the point of both sides of the border.
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we_rv
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Remember the good ole days when there were "gas wars"? (I'm not talking about US involvement overseas, for those of you too young to remember.)
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Mr Brew-Ski
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Rocmoc,
I understand what you are saying. What one's time is worth is the biggest issue here. We always try & incorporate some shopping or dinner on our diesel runs. Also thinking about adding either a 70 gallon transfer flow auxiliary tank or replacing my 26 gallon fuel tank with a 45 gallon one in order to cut down on the number of runs. I must admit the DW is becoming a little apprehensive visiting the border towns because of the recent violence. IMHO as long as the fuel is cheap people will continue to flock SOB for fuel runs regardless.
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