Kids? I'm the early riser in our camper. DH makes me put the coffeemaker outside so that I don't wake him or the teenager! ....sometimes I wake up Grumpy; sometimes I let him sleep!!!!
(I'm usually quiet - reading a book & enjoying my coffee!!)
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wayne_tw wrote: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep your kids quiet until at least 10AM. I have to listen to them screaming all day long and often well into the night, the least you can do is keep them quiet in the mornings!
Where do you camp? I'll try to avoid that place so you won't be irritated, because silence till 10am just isn't going to happen! And it won't just be my kids! LOL!!! Most places I've camped are downright bustling by 9:00am.
But, if you're hearing kids screaming all day and into the night, I assure you it's not my kids! We're not a family of screamers. But we're not whisperers either, so I imagine we'd be a nuisance to you.
Enjoy your camping!
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There's always the other option: SPANK THEM and tell them NO. MAKE them control themselves. You're bigger than they are...but this is another subject...
When camping:
People take babies...babies cry...what would the old geezers do if they cried at 6 AM - get them thrown out? Anyone who camps, whether in a tent or RV must understand that there are ALL types who do the same thing and you have to put up with whatever comes along. If everyone would use the golden rule we'd be ok.
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I think the bottom line here is abiding by the campground quiet hours. If you're keeping your kids in a half hour beyond that, then IMO you're doing great.
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Seems like this is a great opportunity to teach the kids consideration of others, rather than just saying, "Oh well, quiet hours are over too bad for anyone who may be disturbed." And that is what the OP seems to be saying and doing.
No, that's not what I'm saying and doing. If it were, then I wouldn't have bothered to ask on this forum. I would have just done whatever I wanted, or let the kids do whatever they want.
Actually that is exactly what you posted, maybe not what you are doing. You have been quite satisfied that once the majority stated that noise was OK after quiet hours you said OK. But you also said you percieved them as too noisey. So, by your own admission they are too noisey at 7:00 AM, but since quiet hours are over, then you are happy letting them make the noise that you claim is "too noisey."
I can only go by what you originally wrote, which is probably more accurate than what you are now trying to portray. And what you wrote is unacceptable, since you are allowing your children to be "too noisey" at an early hour knowing full well it is disturbing behavior.
But just like obnoxious dog owners whose animals are perfect in their own eyes, obnoxious parents likewise believe the same about their children.
Seems like this is a great opportunity to teach the kids consideration of others, rather than just saying, "Oh well, quiet hours are over too bad for anyone who may be disturbed." And that is what the OP seems to be saying and doing.
No, that's not what I'm saying and doing. If it were, then I wouldn't have bothered to ask on this forum. I would have just done whatever I wanted, or let the kids do whatever they want.
Actually that is exactly what you posted, maybe not what you are doing. You have been quite satisfied that once the majority stated that noise was OK after quiet hours you said OK. But you also said you percieved them as too noisey. So, by your own admission they are too noisey at 7:00 AM, but since quiet hours are over, then you are happy letting them make the noise that you claim is "too noisey."
I can only go by what you originally wrote, which is probably more accurate than what you are now trying to portray. And what you wrote is unacceptable, since you are allowing your children to be "too noisey" at an early hour knowing full well it is disturbing behavior.
But just like obnoxious dog owners whose animals are perfect in their own eyes, obnoxious parents likewise believe the same about their children.
Wayne, you sound like a real moron. Someday I hope you get the privilidge to camp beside me and my boys and I hope...just hope that you speak your mind to me about my boys "loud behavior". You might want to try boondocking.
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Seems like this is a great opportunity to teach the kids consideration of others, rather than just saying, "Oh well, quiet hours are over too bad for anyone who may be disturbed." And that is what the OP seems to be saying and doing.
No, that's not what I'm saying and doing. If it were, then I wouldn't have bothered to ask on this forum. I would have just done whatever I wanted, or let the kids do whatever they want.
Actually that is exactly what you posted, maybe not what you are doing. You have been quite satisfied that once the majority stated that noise was OK after quiet hours you said OK. But you also said you percieved them as too noisey. So, by your own admission they are too noisey at 7:00 AM, but since quiet hours are over, then you are happy letting them make the noise that you claim is "too noisey."
I can only go by what you originally wrote, which is probably more accurate than what you are now trying to portray. And what you wrote is unacceptable, since you are allowing your children to be "too noisey" at an early hour knowing full well it is disturbing behavior.
But just like obnoxious dog owners whose animals are perfect in their own eyes, obnoxious parents likewise believe the same about their children.
Seems like this is a great opportunity to teach the kids consideration of others, rather than just saying, "Oh well, quiet hours are over too bad for anyone who may be disturbed." And that is what the OP seems to be saying and doing.
No, that's not what I'm saying and doing. If it were, then I wouldn't have bothered to ask on this forum. I would have just done whatever I wanted, or let the kids do whatever they want.
Actually that is exactly what you posted, maybe not what you are doing. You have been quite satisfied that once the majority stated that noise was OK after quiet hours you said OK. But you also said you percieved them as too noisey. So, by your own admission they are too noisey at 7:00 AM, but since quiet hours are over, then you are happy letting them make the noise that you claim is "too noisey."
I can only go by what you originally wrote, which is probably more accurate than what you are now trying to portray. And what you wrote is unacceptable, since you are allowing your children to be "too noisey" at an early hour knowing full well it is disturbing behavior.
But just like obnoxious dog owners whose animals are perfect in their own eyes, obnoxious parents likewise believe the same about their children.
Wayne, you sound like a real moron. Someday I hope you get the privilidge to camp beside me and my boys and I hope...just hope that you speak your mind to me about my boys "loud behavior". You might want to try boondocking.
Actually, sir, with two Master's Degrees, I am anything but a moroon. I am, however, a realist. Actually, camping next to you and your respectful, considerate boys would be, in fact, a privilege I would enjoy. It is an honor that children bestow upon us adults when their eyes light up when they understand a lesson of life that we have taught them. Perhaps I could unravel a little mystery of nature for them that they can then keep forever and share with others. However, anyone, kids or adults, making loud, unnecessary noise at anytime of the day or night is rude and inconsiderate.
There are many posts in this forum, and even references in this thread, about obnoxious behavior by adults making loud, unnecessary noises. Everyone agrees that this is inconsiderate behavior, and the offending parties should be corrected, even expelled, by campground management.
I find that children making the same degree of loud, unnecessary noise is likewise inconsiderate behavior. Of course they are children and may not initially know better, but their parents should make that behavior a learning experience, not a discipilinarian experience, and explain that certain behaviors may well infringe on others, and to be CONSIDERATE, they should only engage in behaviors that do not disturb others. Just because they are children does not otherwise explain or even excuse unacceptable behavior.
Of course this involves parents actually parenting and setting boundaries, as well as acknowledging that they and their children are not the centers of themselves, and also the children are not empowered to do whatever they want without regard for others. Parents are also often too self absorbed to invest the necessary time and energy to accomplish such goals. I suppose that inconsiderate parents would not even recognize inconsiderate behavior their children may engage in.
Seems like this is a great opportunity to teach the kids consideration of others, rather than just saying, "Oh well, quiet hours are over too bad for anyone who may be disturbed." And that is what the OP seems to be saying and doing.
No, that's not what I'm saying and doing. If it were, then I wouldn't have bothered to ask on this forum. I would have just done whatever I wanted, or let the kids do whatever they want.
Actually that is exactly what you posted, maybe not what you are doing. You have been quite satisfied that once the majority stated that noise was OK after quiet hours you said OK. But you also said you percieved them as too noisey. So, by your own admission they are too noisey at 7:00 AM, but since quiet hours are over, then you are happy letting them make the noise that you claim is "too noisey."
I can only go by what you originally wrote, which is probably more accurate than what you are now trying to portray. And what you wrote is unacceptable, since you are allowing your children to be "too noisey" at an early hour knowing full well it is disturbing behavior.
But just like obnoxious dog owners whose animals are perfect in their own eyes, obnoxious parents likewise believe the same about their children.
Wayne, you sound like a real moron. Someday I hope you get the privilidge to camp beside me and my boys and I hope...just hope that you speak your mind to me about my boys "loud behavior". You might want to try boondocking.
Actually, sir, with two Master's Degrees, I am anything but a moroon. I am, however, a realist. Actually, camping next to you and your respectful, considerate boys would be, in fact, a privilege I would enjoy. It is an honor that children bestow upon us adults when their eyes light up when they understand a lesson of life that we have taught them. Perhaps I could unravel a little mystery of nature for them that they can then keep forever and share with others. However, anyone, kids or adults, making loud, unnecessary noise at anytime of the day or night is rude and inconsiderate.
There are many posts in this forum, and even references in this thread, about obnoxious behavior by adults making loud, unnecessary noises. Everyone agrees that this is inconsiderate behavior, and the offending parties should be corrected, even expelled, by campground management.
I find that children making the same degree of loud, unnecessary noise is likewise inconsiderate behavior. Of course they are children and may not initially know better, but their parents should make that behavior a learning experience, not a discipilinarian experience, and explain that certain behaviors may well infringe on others, and to be CONSIDERATE, they should only engage in behaviors that do not disturb others. Just because they are children does not otherwise explain or even excuse unacceptable behavior.
Of course this involves parents actually parenting and setting boundaries, as well as acknowledging that they and their children are not the centers of themselves, and also the children are not empowered to do whatever they want without regard for others. Parents are also often too self absorbed to invest the necessary time and energy to accomplish such goals. I suppose that inconsiderate parents would not even recognize inconsiderate behavior their children may engage in.
Wayne, you stated your case very well and I apologize for flying off the cuff and calling you a moron. And yes, you would love to camp next to me because I have brought my boys up to be very respectful of others and to not be little "hethens".
I think some parents fall in a few categories: Some don't care what their kids do;, 2 - some are overly critical and think their kids are being rowdy when they are really just fine and just being "normal kids", so when the OP said she thought they were being "too noisy" that's just a parent who is worried about their kids possibly being offensive to a fellow camper. That doesn't mean in reality that they are, its just a fear of being perceived as not caring. Obviously if the OP didn't care he/she wouldn't have bothered asking on this forum.
Why does everything always get so heated and controversial? No need for everyone to get defensive or call each other names or spout our academic background.
Move on folks or the mods will be along to lock up.
mzappala wrote: ...When we're camping, We make them stay in the tent and play or read quietly until at least 7:30 because once they're out, I percieve them as too noisy. They're just normal kids, but at that early hour, it seems like normal conversation seems amplified! And once they're out, there's bound to be the occasional loud voice from one kid to the other!...
I went ahead and bolded the OP. The OP isn't saying that they are going to let their kids run around screaming at 7:30 -- just wondering if their kids' "normal conversation" with the "occasional loud voice" is too loud for 7:30.
Not to pick on Wayne (really!) but not sure why he is being so literal about this and almost seems to be reading between the lines. Am I missing something here?
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