RVIA sticker
Why is there a charge for the sticker that is affixed to campers.....What do they do with the money they collect for this ? It does not look like they are doing anything about shoddy construction in the rv industry......
JaxDad wrote:Dutch_12078 wrote:JaxDad wrote:Dutch_12078 wrote:JaxDad wrote:SCVJeff wrote:steve-n-vicki wrote:Where?
I have stayed at a campground that required you to have the RVIA seal, no seal no stay
Legally, probably everywhere. In practice I doubt it's checked very often.
There is no state or federal law requiring an RV to have an RVIA sticker. A park can require one of course, since it's their park and their rules. I have stayed at a couple of parks over the years with it in their rules, but no one has ever asked about it or looked for it at check in.
While from a purely technical point of view, an \"RVIA\" sticker isn't required, the certification of compliance with the NFPA standards it represents IS required.
If an RV manufacturer wished to have some other accredited body certify the vehicles compliance with the required minimum standards for life safety it would be acceptable.
Please provide a link to any regulation that requires a \"certification\" that an RV meets NFPA standards. Even most RV's WITH an RVIA sticker are self-certified by the manufacturer, with only random checks by the RVIA inspectors. The NFPA does not set national or state standards for anything. Instead, they write standards that governments MAY adopt as written or may modify as they see fit. ANSI standards fall in the same category. NHTSA regulations and requirements for RV's and other highway vehicles, on the other hand, are codified in US law.
Just as an example, below is a link to a brochure from the State of Idaho's Division of Building Safety.
Idaho Life Safety Regulations Brochure
In it the preamble states \"All structures built for use as a dwelling place, including “tiny houses”, must fall into one of the following classifications and are required to comply with the requirements for that classification.\"
Then further on, in the case of RV's it says \"Recreational Vehicles - The Idaho Transportation Department regulates RVs as vehicles for title and licensing purposes through your county vehicle licensing agency. Their width is limited to 81?2 feet and temporary recreational lodging is the only legal use. The placement and occupancy of RVs is regulated by local planning and zoning ordinances.
RVs must comply with American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Standard A119.2 for Recreational Vehicles or ANSI A119.5 Standards for Park Trailers (IC§39-4202). The Recreational Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA) issues an insignia for compliant RVs and Park Trailers.\"
Just like with electrical safety and the NEC and the building code, life safety standards under the various State and Provincial regulations all refer back national standards. You can find similar requirements in each jurisdiction.
steve-n-vicki wrote:5 years? I have never been to an age restricted CG, but any mentioned here is 10. Unless it's across the street from Disneyland or in the middle on Las Vegas they won't last long. That's a pretty stuck-up rule anyway, and 5 years is ridiculous.
it was a private camp ground , and they had a 5 year age restriction on your equipment,
Dutch_12078 wrote:JaxDad wrote:Dutch_12078 wrote:JaxDad wrote:SCVJeff wrote:steve-n-vicki wrote:Where?
I have stayed at a campground that required you to have the RVIA seal, no seal no stay
Legally, probably everywhere. In practice I doubt it's checked very often.
There is no state or federal law requiring an RV to have an RVIA sticker. A park can require one of course, since it's their park and their rules. I have stayed at a couple of parks over the years with it in their rules, but no one has ever asked about it or looked for it at check in.
While from a purely technical point of view, an \"RVIA\" sticker isn't required, the certification of compliance with the NFPA standards it represents IS required.
If an RV manufacturer wished to have some other accredited body certify the vehicles compliance with the required minimum standards for life safety it would be acceptable.
Please provide a link to any regulation that requires a \"certification\" that an RV meets NFPA standards. Even most RV's WITH an RVIA sticker are self-certified by the manufacturer, with only random checks by the RVIA inspectors. The NFPA does not set national or state standards for anything. Instead, they write standards that governments MAY adopt as written or may modify as they see fit. ANSI standards fall in the same category. NHTSA regulations and requirements for RV's and other highway vehicles, on the other hand, are codified in US law.
JaxDad wrote:Dutch_12078 wrote:JaxDad wrote:SCVJeff wrote:steve-n-vicki wrote:Where?
I have stayed at a campground that required you to have the RVIA seal, no seal no stay
Legally, probably everywhere. In practice I doubt it's checked very often.
There is no state or federal law requiring an RV to have an RVIA sticker. A park can require one of course, since it's their park and their rules. I have stayed at a couple of parks over the years with it in their rules, but no one has ever asked about it or looked for it at check in.
While from a purely technical point of view, an \"RVIA\" sticker isn't required, the certification of compliance with the NFPA standards it represents IS required.
If an RV manufacturer wished to have some other accredited body certify the vehicles compliance with the required minimum standards for life safety it would be acceptable.
SCVJeff wrote:X-2, never even had anyone come out to look at my RV, first time they say it's a requirement, I'll move on down the road. (And take my wallet with me)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-05-27T09:28:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-05-27T09:28:47.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":733},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2228141":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2228141","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2228141":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:216528"},"id":"message:2228141","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:2228124/message:2228141","revisionNum":1,"uid":2228141,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2228124"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2228124"},"subject":"Re: RVIA sticker","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2228141"},"body":"JaxDad wrote:I have never ever ever ever been asked, nor has anyone ever even come close to the passenger side to look for it. This in USFS, State, 5 county parks, and many private CG's... Never.SCVJeff wrote:steve-n-vicki wrote:Where?
I have stayed at a campground that required you to have the RVIA seal, no seal no stay
Legally, probably everywhere. In practice I doubt it's checked very often.
Still want to know where this was inspected ?
JaxDad wrote:I have never ever ever ever been asked, nor has anyone ever even come close to the passenger side to look for it. This in USFS, State, 5 county parks, and many private CG's... Never.SCVJeff wrote:steve-n-vicki wrote:Where?
I have stayed at a campground that required you to have the RVIA seal, no seal no stay
Legally, probably everywhere. In practice I doubt it's checked very often.
westend wrote:
Time for someone to start the RVAA.
